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Dr. David A. Yeagley, an American Indian and direct descendant of the Comanche warrior Bad Eagle says it best:
America today is making the same mistake we Indians made nearly four centuries ago. America is letting in too many foreigners. And we Indians could end up losing this country all over again. It may come as surprise to many white people who have been brainwashed by the media to see Indians as the ultimate liberals, but there are few groups in America today who take a dimmer view of mass immigration than the American Indian.
The Comanches were one of the most intolerant of all Indian peoples. We had no use for anyone else, white, Mexican or Indian. When we came thundering down on the southwest plains, we took the land we wanted and ran everyone else off. We created the life we wanted, at the expense of other people. The white man did the same. Only he did it on a grander scale.
In many ways, Indians see the white man as a kind of adopted son -- naive, reckless and destructive, at times -- but nevertheless cut from the same warrior cloth as we were. We do not see black, Mexicans, Asians, Arabs and others in this light. These peoples may have their own virtues and traditions, but they have no history with us. They are strangers. If they want to rule us, they must conquer us the way the white man did -- on the battlefield, by force of arms. That is the only honorable way for a warrior.
The white man seems to have lost his spirit. We see that he is giving this country away to [illegal alien] others, and this fills our hearts with fear. For we are part of the land he is giving away ... The white man must regain his warrior soul and take back his land! In that fight, I will stand by his side and offer whatever strength I have to ensure his victory!"To TRUE Native Americans, are you offended when illegal Mexicans pretend to be Indians?
I am a true American Indian and we do exist. Yes it is an insult for them to portray themselves as "American Indians". We do not agree with the politically correct term of native Americans. We are and have been for centuries "American Indians" And it is insulting considering what they did to our ancestors when they raped, murdered and committed genocide on our western American Indians, the land they claim was theirs. I am not Comanche, but they were one of the tribes these people from mexico slaughtered. Thank you for this article. And for these ones who believe we don't exist, learn your history, your ignorance is showing.
its funny you post something by yeagley. he is one of those fake natives. even the comanche don't like him and have shunned him from anything they do.
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To TRUE Native Americans, are you offended when illegal Mexicans pretend to be Indians?but hey...there are sell out ndns everywhere and i guess you found a couple.
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all I say is we all gotta live on this farking planet, get over it, it's 2010 whiners. What you want us to do move to mars? Sick of people bitching about what happened hundred to hundreds of years ago, we're all just humans, the same species, fark race. I only see 2 types of people on this planet
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To TRUE Native Americans, are you offended when illegal Mexicans pretend to be Indians?people and stupid people. Seriously getover it, wasn'tlike you were the ones raped and killed etc, we can all find a reason for why we are owed regardless of race if we look hard enough, imagine how much more the world would suck then. Damn sue and whinge happy world.
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you ignorant woman, Mexicans didn't kill (YOUR) people Spanish did and so did Whites so don't come and try to express your interest in things you clearly have no idea what are about.
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oh my fu ing god skize if you called my native friends indians they would kick yer posing ****. you are no native. my friends are proud to be native, the tatoos of many natives say " native pride"
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my only intention was to point out that you are quoting a FAKE indian who is really a right wing racist white supremist and then chose a fake indian as BA. nie to see you can spot the fakes! although i'm pretty sure you are clueless. like many other people you simply like those who agree with you.
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"Yeagley Is a Far Right Racist...I Am Against How Yeagley Thinks....He Does Not Represent the Comanche People" ~ Comanche Chairman Wallace Coffey
btw Yeagley is not Indian, he is part Mexican, his mother allotted tribal status.
Nobody is pretending! they are all part indian (Mayan, Aztec and many others). I'm not offended. Pick up a book now and then. Don't rely on internet BS.
I am more offended by whites trying to be blacks. Who are these 'TRUE Native Americans" you speak of? There is more Indian blood in Mexicans than in any whites mixed with the savage red man blood.
Isn't it being posted in this category that there is no such thing as American-Indian German-American Mexican-American or any other hyphenated nationality? Isn't your either full American or not an American poster even quoted President Roosevelt why is it any different or acceptable in this case?
'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin.
But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but must be something else also, isn't an American at all.
We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.'
-Theodore Roosevelt 1907
Some of the posters here have agreed that what Roosevelt said is true but what excuse do they have for being two faced with their answers here.
are you stupid most of us are mestizos of aztec(indian) and white(spanish)
So the Maya living in Mexico are not Indians??? OK LOL.....I see what you are saying though, many do falsely claim to be, but many are at the same time.
They should be offended by this question.
Well Comanche's were not the only Indian tribe so to claim that ALL of them feel this way is ridiculous.
Native Americans are people too so it is no surprise to me that there are differences of opinion here. I have heard more and more American Indians complain of illegal aliens. They complain that the illegals are taking parts of their land and polluting it. The illegals also want half of the money the American Indians make from the Casinos.
http://www.desertinvasion.us/articles/ar…
http://www.desertinvasion.us/invasion_pi…
Many of them feel threatened by the illegal aliens. I am sure that those who have not run into the invading Illegals would take their side. It makes sense finally the white people have a real enemy in their own house. One that has the best chance to destroy America as it is once and for all.
Naturally it sounds great but once those Indians are next to these illegal aliens for any lengthy amount of time things change. The Indians realize that the Spanish Conquistador bloodline runs strong in the illegal aliens.
http://ambergriscaye.com/pages/mayan/azt…
When that happens the American Indians who were for illegal aliens change their minds very quickly. The Spanish Conquistadors were very brutal and were only interested in Gold ( money ) and the hostile takeover of a nation or nations.
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This was taken from the article in the website told by the Indian point of view.
The Indian chroniclers describe the beginning of the terrible slaughter perpetrated by Pedro de Alvarado in the patio of the main temple in Tenochtitlan. After mentioning the first rituals of the fiesta that was being celebrated-a fiesta in which "song was linked to song"- they tell how the Spaniards entered the sacred patio:
They ran in among the dancers, forcing their way to the place where the drums were played. They attacked the man who was drumming and cut off his arms. Then they cut off his head, and it rolled across the floor.
They attacked all the celebrants, stabbing them, spearing them, striking them with their swords. They attacked some of them from behind, and these fell instantly to the ground with their entrails hanging out. Others they beheaded: they cut off their heads, or split their heads to pieces.
They struck others in the shoulders, and their arms were torn from their bodies. They wounded some in the thigh and some in the calf. They slashed others in the abdomen, and their entrails all spilled to the ground. Some attempted to run away, but their intestines dragged as they ran; they seemed to tangle their feet in their own entrails. No matter how they tried to save themselves, they could find no escape.
http://www.voiac.org/victims.php?id=162
http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_trut…
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/il…
I have taken Mexican American History this is what I gather.
Mexicans are made of being are Indian (maya, aztec) and Spanish generally generally speaking. AKA mestizos This would make them European and Native (MEXICO).
However them being born in Mexico does not make them north american indian.
Except for those early deportations which was normally along the border states of America and Mexico. These being California,Texas,AZ, NM. The US Gov made Marijuana illegal so lots of mexicans stayed just south of the border.
But yeah Mexicans wernt here first and indians were, but so were people who were born here.
I am a native-born American but am not a "Native American" as you are using the term. (Actually, no human beings are indigenous to the Western Hemisphere, but that's a different story.) But I have wondered also about this.
If one is concerned with preserving the rights of "the people who got here first," then I would imagine that "indigenous peoples" would receive protections while descendants of European (including Spanish and Portugese) settlers would not. When I have asked about this, the only answer is that there has apparently been more intermarriage among the Spanish and Portugese and "native populations" than there has been among native and settler populations in the US.
I have also read that much of the effort to see people emigrate from Mexico to the US is motivated by bigotry among "Spanish" groups in Mexico - that they are seeking to rid themselves of "native" populations.
Unfortunately I do not have sources handy, but these might be ideas to research. Good luck.
Roughly they are, alot of Mexicans are decendents of Apache, Navajo, Zuni, Hopi, Pueblo, Commanche, and Ute and the list could go on. Because of the massive slave trade that happened.
As a native american, I have no trouble with that, its not like a white person going on and on about some great grandmother who was a Cherokee or something. Thing about Hispanics, is you can really tell and see the Native Part in them, wether its Aztec, Yaqui, Apache or whatever.
Dr. David A. Yeagley speaks for no one but himself.
Just another “White man” making a living off the backs of the “Indians”.
His rants would be laughable but, his purpose is to spread “HATE”
He promotes the superiority of the White man and that the “Red man” must stand up and save the “Whiteman's America” . What a bunch of crock.
No TRUE Native American would be fooled by his propaganda.
Give me a break.
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in 1930 1.2 million American Mexicans were deported to Mexico , they were born in the USA and one day someone kicked them out , OBVIOUSLY they must have come from the native who used to live at the places they were deported from . most Mexicans are mixed and yes many of them are descendants of the American Indians , not all and nobody claims every Mexican is .
about "Dr. David A. Yeagley" statements all i can say is than nobody is here to rule his life , so if he feels like bowing down to anyone then he should continue to do so , what a shame he is .
Native American as you state it do not exist, it is a political myth created by the left to try and make us white folks feel bad about creating the best country on earth. Anyone born in the USA is a Native American.
i dont care as long as i get my money from whitey
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